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[deanl]

Hey there.

I downloaded it... But for some reason it doesnt work for me. I have the quicktime file and I can hear the audio but the picture is kind of distored diagonaly.

I cant work out what's wrong with it. Other quick time files work fine.

Despin out.

[Kev Owens]

Film is always the best choice!!

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Have to disagree with that one. People just getting started out in filmmaking (yes I see the irony in using that term) benefit from the non-restrictive use of the digital medium to learn.

I doubt anyone will argue that film is a superior medium, but this debate has raged for a long time about costs. The real expense surely comes in buying the stock and processing it, as well as hiring an edit facilty to use? If you shoot film then great, but don't assume that people are choosing digital/video over film believing it to be better! The 'choice' may not be there!

[Spunkey1pestic]

I understand-And I'm not Vid/HD bashing- I've used that medium myself-
But the bottom line is: "Film" is the medium
preferred by the industry and I don't see that changing anytime soon!- And frankly to shoot 16 process it and dump it to dvd, is not as expensive as people make it out to be...
All it takes is a little research and practice-
It's not hard and "restricted"-Trust Me-
Besides Have you ever looked at the cost to transfer Those Vid/HD projects to a 35mm
negative???

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 11, 2005 02:33 PM: Message edited by: Spunkey1pestic ]</font>

[miker]

Besides Have you ever looked at the cost to transfer Those Vid/HD projects to a 35mm
negative???

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">my rationale is this: until I have the budget to make 'proper' films with somebody else's money then my target market is the DVD sell-thru market and not the cinema. for that route is is much cheaper to stick with SD end-to-end.

home cinema is pretty good nowadays, and the DVD market is HUGE.

but there's no two ways about it - i remember projecting my super8 sillies when i was at art college and being absolutely wowed by the richness and depth of the image that today's "prosumer" gear that is favourite of the indies can't come close to.

[untamed_aggression]

Originally posted by miker:
my rationale is this: until I have the budget to make 'proper' films with somebody else's money then my target market is the DVD sell-thru market and not the cinema. for that route is is much cheaper to stick with SD end-to-end.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">My thoughts exactly. [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]

[Spunkey1pestic]

Nigel- I so agree with you on this one...
I have two 16's- one I paid $18.59(US)
The other came out of my friends Dad closet- Now Good stocks are a little pricey this side of the Atlantic,but compared to HD-That will be the day (Please)... Film is always the best choice!! And Skinhead's piece proved that!

[Generic Skinhead]

Originally posted by eidde:
Seems to me that he is a dreamer or a waster. Not grabbing the moment, but letting life pass by.
She knows this and it makes her sad.
He isnt smelling the coffee but getting obsessed by trivia (tap dripping, drains... etc) and irrellivant things. Not grasping his life.
She can see this.
Eventually it backfires on him, he gets caught in a trap, that many others have fallen for, and will leave him hanging for life...?
Maybe its a trap she has set? When the noose closes in it triggers the scissors to stab her feet, to tell her that she caught another one?
Or that he has finally been caught, and succumbed to a life of "hanging around" - pun obviously intended....

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You're pretty much on the money with that reading of it Eidde.

Suppose it would make sense to start with my own starting point when i went to write it. When i left home 4 years ago, i left a lot of friends behind. In those years I feel I've developed a lot as a person and artistically too. Coming home I was shocked to find most of my mates to be almost exactly the same. Y'know 4 years down the line the highlight of their week is going to the same pub/club we used to go to. A lot of these guys got degrees in subjects to please their parents and now they work in petrol stations cos they dont want to work in their degree/masters area. They all seem so vague to me, and talk about it being just for a few months before something better comes along but...I think life is passing them by. They have no passion. The've been sucked into a routine.

For the purposes of my short i wanted to take this idea to an extreme, so we find a guy who's only activity is making coffee. different mugs for different times of the day. The girl is also stuck in a routine but she is willing the guy to do something, to change it- she cannot by herself. In the scene with the pepsi can, the first time they really interract on any level...shes willing him to say something to her. He instead though turns away to get his coffee, chained as he is to his routine. She's upset because she senses the moment for change has passed.

From that moment its all downhill for the protagonist.

The tap is the antagonist of the piece, forcing an inactive man to take action. It will break the status quo one way or another.

Let me know if you'd like me to go on, or whether you think I'm being a pretentous student.

[jb_617]

Go on.


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Seriously.

[untamed_aggression]

You're being a pretentious student.





















Not really [img]tongue.gif[/img]

I don't have this ability to think of a film on a cerebral level with themes and ideas running throught a piece. I just chuck some blood around, add a dog-shagging joke and hope for the best.

But, as JB said, "go on." [img]cool.gif[/img]

[Generic Skinhead]

Ok, here i go again...

Over the course of redrafting the script i decided to go with an internal structure of 3 nights. So first off monday.

We meet the two characters in there usual passive state. The life coach voiceover from the TV washes over them. As the clock goes 11: 15 Ricardo (his name for some reason) goes to the kitchen. If you are sharp you'll spot 11:15 written on his che mug. In fact all the mugs in front of the coffee jars have different times written on them.

I went with ECU's of the coffee making process, because thats the way this guy sees it. Its his only activity so he sees it in minute details. The choice to shoot black and white was also partially motivated by how I thought these characters would see the world.

As he leaves the kitchen, the tap drips once. Incidental at this point.

So Monday functions as a description of a usual day for this guy.

I'll deal with tuesday next...

Also a few people have asked me to put the film online again and i will try to do so this weekend when I've a bit more time.